Originally Posted by
SmitteyB
Easy to criticize scope when times are good.
We hedged our bets. Plain and simple. Lock it up while we can because like others said you can’t reclaim scope. See United fighting tooth and nail for 76-seaters and Kirby is literally telling them NO WAY.
I don’t care what our business model is today. It won’t be the same in 10 years.
Some of you military folks who have never been affected by an economic downturn or regional rat race will probably never understand. But go talk to the Airways and Delta guys and ask them how it feels to be furloughed while you see brand new 76-seat airplanes be delivered to a wholly owned or worse a non union airline. Your option? Go work for $30/hr there.
Some of you have such thick skulls I wonder how you even absorb information at all.
So we can revisit this thread in years if history calls for it, but if our scope somehow saves your job and your house and feeds your kids, you can thank that MEC and pilots who realized how important it really is/was.
We can argue the merits of the rest of contract until we are blue in the face, but Section 1 will ALWAYS be a non-starter.
We didn’t vote on only one section. We voted on an entire CBA (which was lacking). The whole tone of the NC/MEC during most of the negotiations was “quality over speed.” Even in the labor dispute times. Until the AIP. Then it was “we have to vote this in at all costs because scope and mergers and downturns.” We are now 1.5 years post AIP. In this time we wouldn’t have regional feed and would most likely have achieved TA2. As you said, we can argue the merits of the entire CBA ad nauseum. But you don’t vote yes over one section, or over fear. Everyone should have simply voted over whether or not the CBA has a high enough overall value to warrant a yes vote. And if your mil comment was directed at me, I was at a bottom feeder regional working under a bankruptcy contract. I am a fierce advocate of scope. But I’m also not going to vote on a substandard CBA because of scope, when the fear being spread by N8 was unfounded and part of his agenda to get his baby approved.