Originally Posted by
SmitteyB
Easy to criticize scope when times are good.
We hedged our bets. Plain and simple. Lock it up while we can because like others said you can’t reclaim scope. See United fighting tooth and nail for 76-seaters and Kirby is literally telling them NO WAY.
I don’t care what our business model is today. It won’t be the same in 10 years.
Some of you military folks who have never been affected by an economic downturn or regional rat race will probably never understand. But go talk to the Airways and Delta guys and ask them how it feels to be furloughed while you see brand new 76-seat airplanes be delivered to a wholly owned or worse a non union airline. Your option? Go work for $30/hr there.
Some of you have such thick skulls I wonder how you even absorb information at all.
So we can revisit this thread in years if history calls for it, but if our scope somehow saves your job and your house and feeds your kids, you can thank that MEC and pilots who realized how important it really is/was.
We can argue the merits of the rest of contract until we are blue in the face, but Section 1 will ALWAYS be a non-starter.
I don't recall anyone saying that it isn't good that JB pilots locked out RJ scope. Literally NO ONE said that. Not a single person has said that scope should have been traded for something else either. Has not been said.
With that said, scope was agreed to early and without much/any negotiating capital because the company got what THEY wanted (virtually unlimited domestic codeshare (to be used in the future, standby) and virtually unlimited international codeshare). And the company gave up NOTHING that they saw value in... The company operates in some of the highest cost, most gate and slot restricted airspace/airports in the world, and they do so under a low-cost business model, at a time in history when we are all approaching a shortage of qualified pilots... The company has CLEARLY been in an ***UP***-gauging trend for several years. There is literally NOTHING that makes sense about JB running an outsourced RJ network.
That was never really a threat. Now domestic codeshare on the other hand...
With that said, yes I do think it is great to have RJs locked out, no matter how remote the possibility is/was. I would have strongly preferred, in addition, to see stronger restrictions on domestic/international codeshare.
But understand that big "win" cost the company nothing from their current or future business plans. And cost them nothing from their Treasury.
Which all means it is/was illogical to achieve less in other sections because of this "win". Remember, the company agreed early to this scope section... Because they got what they wanted and gave NOTHING they didn't want to give. Who "won" in that case exactly?