Originally Posted by
jamesholzhauer
We didn’t vote on only one section. We voted on an entire CBA (which was lacking). The whole tone of the NC/MEC during most of the negotiations was “quality over speed.” Even in the labor dispute times. Until the AIP. Then it was “we have to vote this in at all costs because scope and mergers and downturns.” We are now 1.5 years post AIP. In this time we wouldn’t have regional feed and would most likely have achieved TA2. As you said, we can argue the merits of the entire CBA ad nauseum. But you don’t vote yes over one section, or over fear. Everyone should have simply voted over whether or not the CBA has a high enough overall value to warrant a yes vote. And if your mil comment was directed at me, I was at a bottom feeder regional working under a bankruptcy contract. I am a fierce advocate of scope. But I’m also not going to vote on a substandard CBA because of scope, when the fear being spread by N8 was unfounded and part of his agenda to get his baby approved.
Agreed. We didn’t vote on a single section. But scope was a deal breaker for a large amount of YES voters.
Military comment was not at you. I was simply making a generalizing statement that military folks have a hard time understanding the importance of scope.
I don’t know Nate, have never met him, but I also don’t believe a normal line pilot understands how tense airline negotiations work. You can’t just stomp your foot and complain like children. A mediator will accuse you of negotiating in bad faith and your leverage drops drastically. So, I think we should acknowledge that.