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Old 10-08-2019 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Also, 27 years left and this issue won't be an issue?

1. 27 years is a lot of contract iterations... How many pilot groups in history have never given up RJ scope in a negotiations? 1? Company dangles a huge carrot and 51% of the Walnuts go for it, not possible?

2. Merge with Alaska which has RJs and NO scope. Arbitrator rules that scope must allow the existing RJs, not possible? Or, joint CBA negotiations and the company dangles a huge carrot and 51% of the Walnuts from both groups go for it, not possible?

3. JB is acquired by DL, UAL or AA, game over. Not possible?

4. JB files for bankruptcy, judge rules the company can subcontract RJs... not possible?

5. Moxy starts a large West coast operation and unlimited domestic codeshares with JB and JB abandons it's promise to growth on the West coast. Your seniority would be a fraction of what it could/should have been. Same goes with an unlimited domestic codeshare with Alaska. Allowed and DEFINITELY an "issue". Not possible?

6. Skywest offers an at-risk RJ network to JB and agrees to structure it as a codeshare. Allowed and possible. Not possible?

Not to mention the virtually unlimited international codeshare.

27 years, this issue WON'T be an issue?

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Would you prefer we didn’t have scope? I guess we could have skipped it because in all of the above you suggest it’s pretty much worthless.

Dude I don’t know what will happen in 27 years but I feel better walking in with scope on the first contract.

It’s funny you come up with all of these things yet when I say the company could change business plans you say nope not buying it.

So it’s a theoretical one sided argument like what could have maybe happened if we voted no. I really don’t feel like playing that game. I don’t even know if I’ll be alive in 27 years and I’m not going to take the time (especially with you) (that’s not in a rude way) to try to debate every scenario.

Again we have scope it’s good. There is other stuff to work on.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the contract needed to be done because of scope or anything like that. I as well as you knew that the company would most likely violate the contract day one. And it has. Or find a work around, this new coat. I’m just saying it not as worthless as some say. That’s all
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