Most posters here can handle opposing opinions. When those opinions seem to not be based in fact, or are carrying water for management, many posters have a rightfully negative reaction to them. As I tried to say earlier (apparently less eloquently) in a moderator-deleted post, this board is certainly more "blue juicy" than BP and that gets some push back from those of us who are more pro-pilot.

Anyhow, you can post numbers as much as you want, but you can't argue with the fact that many, many guys are taking home less money now than they were before. All pilots should be aware that pay rates are not a direct function of take home pay, and that is why such an emphasis is placed on other sections of the contract in addition to Section 3.

Personally, I received--on paper--a significant pay raise, however my take home income is flat.

With respect to the earlier debate among you and other posters, consider how your pro-company cheerleading may be taken by someone who has taken a very real pay cut under the CBA. Their frustration is warranted.