Gunter is right. I've bid a seat and bid right out of it to a higher paying seat without a seat lock. (never even made it to the PT or whatever they call it now) The over 60 crowd didn't "down bid" when they moved back to the FE spot.....They were no longer able to hold the window seat and were moved to the highest seat they could hold. I hate to say it, but I'll have to back the old guys on this one.