Originally Posted by
MX727
That's a key point. I detect from some postings that there is a fear that people will be forced out of their seat. That doesn't happen without an excess bid as a300fr8dog posted.
Now, the good news in the bid is that there are vacancies listed in every Captain seat. To me, that is clear indication that none of those seats are over manned.
you are EXACTLY correct.
.....and since that is a CLEAR indication that none of those seats are over-manned......
.....it follows (logically) that there should
not be an Excess bid later on down the road when all the Primary Vacancies on this posting are filled - because IF there truly are vacancies in these Captain seats (miraculously 21 MORE Widebody Captain vacancies than on the previous posting.....hmmmmm).......filling them should only properly man those seats (not OVER-man them).
Also.....the company has determined that there are vacancies with FULL KNOWLEDGE of the upcoming DC-10 Excess bid.
How could they possibly, then, say after the DC-10 Excess bid that those Captain seats are now OVER-manned? and perhaps institute, say another Excess bid for those Captain seats that they just filled due to vacancies (ie. need)
ESPECIALLY if they fill any widebody Captain slots via Secondary Vacancies (like they did on the last/cancelled bid).
"oops, sorry guys.....we had no way of knowing that the DC-10 Excess bid would allow all the DC-10 guys to bid the MD11/Airbus Captain seats......now those seats are OVER-manned by 21......expect to see a widebody Captain Excess posting out next week......economic factors.....age 65......how could we have known?"
Can you say lawsuit? Brought by all the junior widebody Captains Excessed off their seat because of this scam?
......UNLESS.....
ALPA, DW, and crew (as they said in their most recent email 'news flash') are actually scrutinizing the legalities of what the company is trying to pull here (which I doubt).
......protecting the seniority rights of EVERYONE on our seniority list......