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Old 01-04-2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
Also.....the company has determined that there are vacancies with FULL KNOWLEDGE of the upcoming DC-10 Excess bid.

How could they possibly, then, say after the DC-10 Excess bid that those Captain seats are now OVER-manned? and perhaps institute, say another Excess bid for those Captain seats that they just filled due to vacancies (ie. need)

ESPECIALLY if they fill any widebody Captain slots via Secondary Vacancies (like they did on the last/cancelled bid).

"oops, sorry guys.....we had no way of knowing that the DC-10 Excess bid would allow all the DC-10 guys to bid the MD11/Airbus Captain seats......now those seats are OVER-manned by 21......expect to see a widebody Captain Excess posting out next week......economic factors.....age 65......how could we have known?"

Can you say lawsuit? Brought by all the junior widebody Captains Excessed off their seat because of this scam?

People who know me say I use the word conspiracy too much but...

I see no conspiracy other than the Company's conspiracy to maximize profit.

The excess bid SHOULD be before the vacancy bid but the incentive to put the vacancy bid first is too great.

1) It helps relieve the excess in the 727 SO seat with a minimum # of training events

2) It fills CA vacancies with minimal training and no creation of secondary training


I originally thought there was a conspiracy to keep the over 60 guys in the back. I now know that was not the case. If the situation reveals a cheaper option, the company will pursue it.

The excess bid after this bid will create overmanning as the original excess and vacancy were also filling openings due to retirements. But not excessive overmanning. Perhaps the company will even let the DC10 guys stay longer or do 2 smaller excess bids spaced apart. This would keep the overmanning on the DC10 fleet and not spread it around. Or they will just excess off the CA seats. Whatever is deemed cheaper.


Lawsuits? What? How?


BTW, good luck on seeing any secondary CA slots. I don't see it happening.
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