This is innuendo put out by the MEC which led to the discussion on here and now starting on the line that somehow we need to be worried about UAL long haul flying. In 1998, the company argued that capital was limited so that meant we had money to buy 50 seaters or we had money to keep flying 747s but we didn't have money for both. The pilots were scared into submission by ALPA leaders, and we signed up for 2 decades of out sourcing our own jobs.

The argument was pure balderdash.

Today our own union has hinted at a similar argument. The company can out source at the short end OR at the long end, and we don't have enough negotiating capital to fix everything.

Balderdash.

UAL has a highly planned capital budget with known purchases of large equipment. We already have a WB fleet 20% bigger than AA and DAL and we are minting money. Management even has taken flying back from Lufthansa in a couple hubs and talked about that in town hall meetings. Kirby has ZERO intention of presiding over a domestic carrier. His sights are set on making United THE premier global carrier and he has said such over and over. You don't do that by outsourcing your most profitable and prestigious routes.

We can tighten the language on JVs if necessary without a second thought towards RJ Scope relaxation, and the MEC/NC are simply making excuses. I had faith in Todd, but if this is coming from him then he needs to go and we need someone in the lead who will start accelerating the negotiations to what seems to be an inevitable fight. Enough with the Kum-by-ya era. I freely admit that 2 years ago I believed the words of our MEC Chair and CEO that this time would be different, but by now it should be clear it is not.

ALPA keeps telling us we fast tracked large swaths of the contract and there are only 3 major issues left which usually go fast once the company decides they are ready. Well then . . . Get 'er done. Take a strike vote or whatever the next step is or at the very least stop playing the patsy and put out a strongly worded update stating loudly and clearly that the number one issue for 99% of the pilots at UAL today is Scope and there will be NO give on that. Stop with the double speak innuendo on Scope. ALPA polled the pilots and have the direction they need. Time to execute on the wishes of the line pilots.

Each and everyone reading this thread or similar threads online needs to contact their ALPA reps by email and simply re-iterate that Scope IS NOT FOR SALE. Move on.