I came to this industry from a business background. I’m a regional guy but I’m
With you. Don’t give an inch. Take back what you can but you have to be a realist at some point. It’s give and take. You just want to take. And in order to take it’s either carrot or stick. Well the RLA has removed the short term stick. It’ll take YEARS to get to the point where any labor action can happen. I don’t know your current contract but unless it has a poison pill or some clause that if not amended by a certain date the X consequence happens - you have no stick. There is Zero incentive for the company to do any more than go through the motions. Since there is no stick that leaves the carrot. The only carrot you have is what you are willing to yield on. The only thing the company wants you to yield on is scope. So either you do or you live with the current contract. For a long time. It’s not about what’s right. That’s a sad fact. Enlighten me if I’m wrong. What’s your stick to take scope back. What’s your carrot? You might take it back if you give on wages. You guys willing to do that to get it back? It’s a short term sacrifice. But are you willing? It’s why I asked what do you have to give? What’s your carrot?
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I see. So it doesn't work for pilots taking it back unless we give up the pooty.
But, it's ok for management to take it, and steal it, and rob from the pilots. That's oK, they don't ever have to agree to give back what was stolen under bankruptcy, or the threat of bankruptcy, or liquidity short fall. Ok, I got it. Pilots MUST give it all up when a gun is pointed to their head, no trade-off required. But, pilots are forbidden from getting it back when the shoe is on the other foot. Got it.
Why exactly do I need to trade A for B? Why exactly do I need to give something up in order to get back what I already had? Why can't I just say, FUPM? or FUIWIB?
That has a very negative effect on my attitude dude. What does management sacrifice exactly? What's their trade-off? They get some not so comfy toilet tissue in the executive washroom? Man, when do we get to enjoy the go?