Originally Posted by
TurnandburnCRJ2
I highly regret choosing Air Wisconsin to be the first airline that I did Part 121 training with.
Now, I have a stain on my permanent record which I have worked hard to keep clean.
The problem with the training at Air Wisconsin is it is designed to be a pressure cooker. Management wants to be picky about which pilots they hire, but they don't want to pay a high industry salary, so they have decided the best way to reduce their simulator$$$ and IOE training$$$ fees is to try and send their pilot recruits blind into CPT so they have an inexpensive way to weed recruits out early on.
Air Wisconsin buys large blocks of leftover simulator time from competing regionals because it costs less. The problem with buying your simulator time this way is it can create big bottlenecks in your training flow. People get pushed too slow or too fast through training and it effects success rates.
This airline has a bottom of the barrel training department compared to other Part 121 regionals.
Air Wisconsin was the third regional that I applied at. To do it over again I would have applied at all the other regionals before resorting to Air Wisconsin.
Here are some quotes from another member on here that I thought would be helpful to ATP-CTP people:
"45%?? My class was 45% class before was 60% class after was just over 50, one after that was 40%. We have a very high failure rate. When I talk to friends that went to other regionals they have whole classes finish ioe before we get our trainees into the sim. "
"We have had over 150 new hires enter training this year, of those 150 under 100 are still on the seniority list with around 70 still in training. Do the math, of the 150 hired only 30 or so are done with training. It’s pathetic. Not all are failures, some moved into better things but most resigned during training at the request of the company"
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Note: I can't describe Air Wisconsin's training better than the way this guy described it here:
"Except for the fact they don’t teach profiles or flows, they give give you handouts and expect you to show to procedures trainer knowing them without prior instruction. The procedure trainer is nothing more than the student demonstrating they can do it all. """Air wisconsin is train by evaluation.""""
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btw: I just wanted to say that Air Wisconsin's training is not impossible. If you are a quick learner and adjust easily to big jumps than you can probably pass this training without too many hiccups. Most people have trouble learning things this way.
I left Air Wisconsin last year. So I really don’t have a dog in this fight. I disagree with you. I found the instructors to be nothing short of professional and they all wanted to see everyone pass. Nobody was out to get anyone. And no instructor wants to see anyone fail or wash out of training.
Did you come prepared? Did you study? Know your flows? Call outs? Memory items? Limitations?
Failures reflect on the instructors. So they don’t want to see their students fail. But I will say, they have a standard they must hold you to. They don’t want to sign off a student who they feel isn’t ready. That would be a disservice to the student as well as the fellow pilots they would be flying with.
With that being said, maybe you should do remedial training on your work ethic and attitude? We have many new hire and upgrade candidates get through just fine.
It’s faced paced and it requires a lot of work and effort. You’re getting paid to learn. Nothing will be handed to anyone on a silver platter.
Just my thoughts.
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