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Old 01-26-2020 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DBono
Mine (145 AQP) was 95 days this past fall, but that included at least 3 1/2 weeks of breaks. They will provide positive space tickets to go home for any break of 3+ days. I know a few other folks who had more like 105 days, starting in Sep and ending in early Jan. Some of that was caused by an unreliable sim in St Louis. But I would expect this to trend more toward the low end of that range as things are getting a little smoother.

I guess theoretically it could be as little as 41 days, but if you got a training schedule like that, you'd be dead at the end. One day off between every couple of sim sessions is really helpful and a day off here or there prior to the evaluation events is also welcome. But some of us got too much of that - like 6 or more days between the last LOT and the LOE checkride. The procedure trainers and sims run 7 days per week, but all classroom stuff is only on weekdays.

I count 41 days of training events....
Basic Indoc (including written test + a CRM day) - 7
Systems (classroom, including written test) - 12
Gen Ops (classroom) - 2
PT (procedures training, including 1 class day of intro) - 6 sessions
MT (maneuvers sim training) - 6 sessions
KV (knowledge validation - i.e. oral exam) - 1
MV (maneuvers validation - 1st phase of sim checks) - 1
LOT (line oriented sim training) - 3 sessions
LOE (line oriented evaluation - ATP/type checkride) - 1
Jumpseats - 2 days (6 legs)

Then you start IOE

It's common for people to need another 1-2 sim sessions along the way. The sessions are really busy and if there is any delay at all, such as the sim having issues or the student needing to repeat a maneuver or two to get it nailed, it can easily create the need for another session or two.

So 41 training event/days and it's actually taking between 70-100 calendar days, probably closer to 70 going forward.


This is a new hire training footprint, not a captain upgrade footprint.


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