Originally Posted by
horrido27
Lee and SP-
Where I'm confused is this-
We basically have about 2500 pilots hired after the Special Date of 23 Jan 2016. Of which, many were on the 756 and some were Captains on Narrowbodies and FO's on the Widebodies.
Based on the results of DB20-07D, isn't it (basically) true that almost all those pilots have now been displaced into the A320/B737 FO seats? And those few who might not have been, will be on the next DB.
As such, wouldn't those pilots need to go to training first UNLESS they get an intent to furlough? (or are on an E-SRL?)
But if the furlough notice doesn't happen till 1 July (Happy 4th of July present).. what happens to those in training? What happens to those who have a training class scheduled for July? (Obviously, those with a July date would not be required to attend..but now who takes that class date?
Just seems that between this over reaching displacement bid, the E-SRL's, the training dates and now the possible Intent to Furlough dates.. nothing matches up. It's like a Catch22!
So strange. And then I read something about displacement rights and grandfather clauses and 120 days.. which didn't help the headache! lol. Guess we'll have to tackle that beast in the fall.
Always
Motch
PS) Hope you 2 have an enjoyable weekend. This weekend is always a weird one for me.
Motch,
We won’t know the final answer until PC shows it to us all.
I think the furlough announcement will come out before the next displacement. My gut feeling. Could be wrong.
While he didn’t exactly get his perfect outcome via this displacement, he did push pilots into the categories where the majority of furloughed pilots will come from. That ensures those categories will be manned to meet the true targets we really haven’t seen yet.
There is no magic in first pushing a pilot to NB FO before furlough. Those pilots can be furloughed from any position, and with the exception of voluntary furloughs, will be recalled to any previously unfilled vacancy their seniority can hold. Not to the position the were furloughed from.
He also took the opportunity to close categories to match whatever “perfect” picture that he and marketing came up with based on their current revenue forecasts.
You can go around and around with the UPA and all the hypothetical outcomes right now. You’ll go crazy trying to do so.
Take a deep breath.....
Be well!
Lee