I'm solidly in the furlough group and I'm not expecting early outs to save me AT ALL. The tone of the company's discussions on the subject has been UN-enthusiastic to say the least. I don't know anyone that's expecting a good early out offer from them. The other thing is the fact that the staffing levels for Summer of 2022 already includes all mandatory retirements according to JL from the town hall yesterday. So a guy that is say 63-64 now taking an early out wont change the staffing number at all. Only the guys that are maybe 62-63 taking an early out would have some effect. What is the likely hood of a guy with 3 years to go taking a mediocre early out? slim to none in my mind.