Originally Posted by
JUNEBUG82
I would argue it’s not as simple as this either/or scenario. It seems the pilot group could present some version of the following that would be in the best interest of both the company and the pilots:
1) Pilots agree to lower MPG to 55 until July 1 2021
2) Company agrees to not furlough until July 1 2021
3) Company agrees to give up on the scope fight (or pick any priority) once things are back to normal and contract negotiations resume.
This is oversimplified to a degree. But the point is that agreements can be drafted in an almost infinite number of ways and can be as creative as needed. An agreement that would address all the opposing concerns I’ve seen on this thread could likely be reached if the pilot group was on board with the fundamental idea of everyone making a temporary sacrifice for the sake of avoiding job losses for a few. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. There’s a lot of talk of brotherhood and unity, but you know the old saying about watching what people do not what they say...
I get what you're trying to say, but you need to be very precise in your language.
For example, lowering the MPG to 55 doesn't have any impact on pilots required. I think you mean lowering the Line Production Average, Line Credit Floor, and Line Credit Cap? We could have a 55 MPG but the lines are built to 80 hours...and the only effect would be loss of pay protection.
Company agrees to not furlough until XXX Date? I hope you're kidding. They will reneg on that agreement/promise so fast your head will spin. They'll NEVER put the company in financial peril to honor a promise...especially a promise to the pilots. I doubt that agreement would stand up in court if the company put a gloomy financial picture in front of a judge.
I put a value of ZERO dollars on any agreement the company makes to provide something in the future. How would you even enforce this? The only way that makes any sense is if they conceded sufficient territory in section 1, reached an AIP, then a TA was presented to the pilots, and we voted in favor. Lacking that, I don't care what they SAY they will do later.
You sound very naive.