I imagine the union assumes that we are all adults and are all aware that there will be furloughs. It’s pretty obvious listening to their communications, I haven’t heard them ever say there would be no furloughs so to say they are not being honest with the pilots is not true in my opinion. They aren’t going to throw numbers out there without a hard number from the company. The company clearly knows there will be furloughs but just as clearly has no idea how to move forward as evidenced by their multiple bids and cancellations.