I am going to have to throw in with av8or. More than 2 decades at Alaska Airlines- every base, both seats, and every jet we have had and have now. The old collaborative gig harbor flying club is about gone and Amen for that. The legacy Airbus crowd have certainly raised their voices but the determined steadfast resolve of this union is 100% homegrown Alaska Airlines make no mistake about it. Brad Tilden and Co. don't like it at all but they have spent 20-30 years creating it and now they can reap what they have sown. The core philosophy that has driven Alaska management for all my years here is simple: Always take more than you give and after that let the Flight Ops bureaucrats take even more. Always paint a grim picture especially when times are good. Any chance you have to kick someone when they are down take it. Always have flashy slogans but never live up to them. Most of all never let up on the pressure to Divide and Conquer....OTZ, my brother, you can relax. Every pilot at this airline knew furloughs were coming when the Wuhani Flu turned into a worldwide bogeyman. Simple math can produce estimates. Most everyone here has been “punched in the mouth” before and the ones who haven’t are about to. Likely, in the end, most will get back up and be ok. Hate to tell ya bud bud the song you are singin don’t play here no more......