Originally Posted by
Meow1215
Yes, and none of those devices meet the definition or requirements to log them as flight time for the aeronautical experience requirements for an ATP certificate.
Actually that's not true. You're confusing different parts of the ATP reg.
61.159(a)(3) allows 25 hours towards the category+class requirements in a full-flight sim. FTD no bueno there.
61.159(a)(4)(i) allows 25 hours towards the instrument requirements in a full-flight sim or FTD. I doubt this comes up often, most folks get the instrument in actual or hood during training or time-building. But if necessary (and the airline's mins allowed it) you could use FTD time or the new-hire sim time.