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Old 06-24-2020 | 10:42 PM
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Grumble
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
I’ve been here 25+ years, and pilots not picking up PP trips or not accepting SRM has never resulted in the company bringing back pilots before they were ready to. They would just cancel the trip, and that pilot income opportunity would be gone. Plus many pilots have been forcibly downgraded in pay, and they will want to make up for that. Everything done within the limits of the contract is fair game. If ALPA wants new rules, they can agree to them contractually with the company, otherwise its status quo.

If you are advocating taking an action against the company that is not something we have been regularly and notoriously been doing for the past 5+ years, then you can do that yourself. I will operate no differently than I have in the past, unless ALPA puts out something official. “Official” means published by the MEC. Not an individual pilot spreading his personal agenda.

If you are actually concerned with furloughees coming back then the best thing you can do to help is to make sure that the company is doing well operationally and financially so that the company will grow to a point where they need to recall furloughed pilots. Making it difficult on the company is not going to get them to act in the way you are suggesting. If we are doing poorly, we are either going to set ourselves up for a merger which, as you may have noticed, does not work out well for furloughed pilots or management will want to further shrink to become profitable.

I see no issues with making sure we are doing well financially as a company, so as to bring back our furloughed pilots as fast as possible, and if in doing so the company is being forced to pay pilots more because of their poor planning, then that its a win-win.
Good to know we can count on you to feather your bed and be a diligent worker for all the silver you can grab, you know, to keep the company moving forward. Picking up PP for yourself will teach mgmt! They’ll definitely bring back our furloughed brothers and sisters with trustworthy minions willing to prostitute themselves out and pick up the slack! Cancelled flights and empty cockpits have never led to recalls because selfish individuals like you can be counted on. Solidarity is obviously not in your vocabulary Richard.

Originally Posted by O2pilot
Anything within the limits of the UPA is fair game. If the MEC has issues with this, they can engage the company on it. You should talk to your LEC reps and explain that you want modifications to the UPA regarding PPU.

Keep in mind that PPU is a “get” for the pilot group. The company did not want to have to potentially pay double for someone to fly a trip, as well as possibly having to drop another trip and pay protect for that as well. Having just taken a substantial pay cut from WB left to WB right, I will certainly be utilizing PPU if the opportunity arises. The company has never recalled pilots because pilots refused to fly, and if all of a sudden pilots stopped doing PPU, they would take ALPA to court for violating the status quo.
That’s some straight up SCAB reasoning right there.

PPU is a tool to make up for manning shortfalls during times of plenty, when hiring and the pilot supply can’t keep up with demand. It’s a win win when times are good. It was never intended as a tool for mgmt to take advantage of the selfish nature of the Richards like you to keep furloughs on the street.

Last edited by Grumble; 06-24-2020 at 10:56 PM.
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