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But seriously
I’m going to have to disagree with the apparent consensus here. This downturn will likely prove to vastly increase the value of the flow. If your goal is to get to a Major, it appears that UAL and DAL may be a good 5-6 years away from taking new hires again. AA is probably 1-2 years. That means there will be a good few years where AA is the only game in town. During that time you’ll have WO pilots taking up around half of all the new hire slots at the only major hiring. That’ll both help those flowing, and those below them (movement).
Obviously no one is going to flow in the time they hoped (or were promised), but no one is getting street hired anywhere with 300 TPIC anytime soon either. The comparative value of the flow, in my opinion, has gone up, not down.
Also, for those saying the seniority is meaningless...
Seniority is QOL and pay at the job you currently hold. If you’ve never been in aviation during a downturn, then here’s my two cents:
Make the best of the job you have. You never know how long you’ll be here.
So correct me if I am wrong, but how did you come up with "half" of new hire pilots being Envoy? We are long past those days are we not? While your assumptions are great about the flow value going up, they are all tied to AA being able to stay afloat, not file BK, not change our contract etc. I think it is an overly optimistic view to think AA will skate past this and not file BK.
Trust me, I hope you are right, I just dont think you are.