Originally Posted by
6ix9ineYearFlow
Exactly. It doesn’t.
Give us mainline seniority numbers, however, I’ll gladly be furloughed and go find work doing whatever in the meantime.
That didn't work so well for the first four party agreement. Took them 13 years to flow, after losing their left seats to flowbacks, and FO's not upgrading, being pushed down the seniority list, and furloughed from the bottom.
They didn't get to flow over and bid with their 13 year seniority number either. AMR played games with that too....
The company will push APA for scope exceptions so they can run smaller planes on the routes until the loads pick back up to some agreed upon metric.
The opportunity here is to merge all the airlines. Not sure the sixth floor can get that far outside the box; but this would be the time to do it. Restructuring into one big carrier saves them a ton of administration costs. It wipes out the majority of scope issues, allowing them to right size the plane to the route. The APA and ENY ALPA would have to again agree to a modified CBA and pay rate plan that AAG previously said would work for the pilots, but nothing similar had yet been negotiated by the other work groups.
The downside is an AA furlough could be a few thousand easily; that could put everybody currently at ENY on the street. So, rather than simply dust off the old APA/EGL ALPA agreement outline, I'd suggest a modification to include some level of furlough protection. A furlough fence where only a certain percentage would be allowed to bid down to the smaller jets.... say 50%.
The fence would stop at the last pilot hired at DOS. after that nobody has any fence protection. It would be a straight from the bottom furlough.
just spit-balling ways to make this work for the pilots in the long run.