Originally Posted by
Drum
If you are non-reving - not for work - what diff does it make, no one is buying anyone off. Your priority should not be higher than a delta employee, present or retired.
I don't get it. If you have to commute to work, pretty sure you have a commuter clause in your contract. We do.
It's simple, follow it if you are going to work. You're covered. Otherwise I don't get what you are trying to push here.
As a former EDV pilot I’ll stay out of the should EDV have S3A end of the pool. But I can give some context on what was happening just prior to the change.
EDV commuter clause is basically similar to ours. You are required to allow for 2 flights as a non rev or js. The 2nd flight must be on Delta paint to allow the company a positive space option. The main difference for the Delta commute is: EDV doesn’t have the ability to book the jumpseat even on EDV flights.
At Endeavor after the 1st flight is missed, the pilot is supposed to call crew scheduling. The EDV scheduler has discretion to positive space the pilot.
now some context
After EDV became wholly owned, Delta shifted the flying from MSP/DTW/MEM to a very heavy NYC/ATL component without increasing total block hours. That turned a lot of people into commuters almost over night. Delta was on a mission reducing the number of contact carriers. Comair had just happened and the Mesa lawsuit over competed flights had just happened or was in court at the time.
The Mesa lawsuit was a huge wake up call to the contract carriers. Prior to that most companies would give up landing slots in NY or bend over backwards in anyway possible to accommodate mainline in an IROP. After the lawsuit Endeavor was going to make sure flights were completed no matter what, and that staffing wasn’t going to be an issue specifically in NYC. To ensure departures EDV bumped a lot of paying passengers for commuting pilots. These passengers were mostly flying between hubs, and several that were connecting out of JFK. Delta management did not like that, so they choose to increase EDV boarding priority. There may have been some spite towards the Delta pilots factored into the equation, but I don’t think that was the main driver for DL management.
now that the change has occurred and Delta achieved less passengers being bumped for commuters, retiree priority will be hard to get back.
Like everything it is probably negotiable, but I for one have that waaaaaaay down my list of things to negotiate for.