Originally Posted by
theUpsideDown
I've been commuting the whole time, to nyc, except for about ~4 years when I lived in a base. Our job is not to be there for the trip, our job is to show up for the commute, give ourselves two chances, it says so right in the FOM. If we don't make it, the NON DISIPLINARY effect is to start removing legs from our pattern (at EDV). It is not the pilots job to solve the staffing problem of the company, which was run by Delta at the time.
If the CP, in a meeting with me and my rep, ever said it was my job to predict the future loads and seamlessly weave my way to work, he would have been wrong. I show up to the airport, I gives it my shots, if the company chooses to pos space me afterwards and displace a couple revenue pax that's on the company. At the time it was 1000 bucks a pop and higher.
Delta, the company that ran EDV and Delta, decided to step on your contract and increase their margins. That wasn't something the union asked for, there was nothing signed. Delta did the data crunch like they always did, and figured out the cost to screw mainline's retirement privilege's were less than the cost to keep buying passenger tickets to NYC or cancelling flights where needed. This happened, they are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
You are trying to point to a want you have in the contract, something that used to be there, and that's good. What's bad is blaming any of this on EDV pilots who didn't ask for it. We wanted more money to either buy our tickets if we wanted (we wouldn't), make the missing legs not hurt so much because the rest of the legs were paid so much, make the legs worth more than the hotel room stay the night before, or SO much money people at said regional could live in NYC sans food stamps. That was our ask. We got shortcircuited by Delta. I don't blame delta pilots for that, I came to work for them. I blamed management. You have no issue with EDV pilots. You have an issue with a couple ex and current EDV pilots calling you out on factual mistakes that you made. Own it, like an adult, and stop being a child.
I can guarantee you, at Delta Air Lines, not EDV, if you avail yourself to commuting clause all the time, and get pos space more often than others, you are going to hear about it. The union will not help you, rightfully so. I can't speak for EDV as I don't work there. Never have. Do you work at Delta, or are you EDV pilot? Maybe prior EDV now at DAL? It will help with my context. To help you with mine: I was former mil pilot, former ASA/Express jet pilot, and now a Delta pilot.
No one is blaming EDV pilots, where did we ever say that? What we did say was that them getting S3A for non-rev - to include sig others and dependents - over our retirees is wrong. Them getting S3A to get too work is fine. IMHO we should look at seeing what we can do as a union to rectify that. Maybe something comes of it, maybe not. All Cog is asking is we try. That is a fair request.