Not to derail the thread, but at what point should a union say, “yeah, you done f-d up bad, and we aren’t going to cash in all our green stamps defending your (repeated) dumb a**”?

It’a a slippery slope for sure, and everyone deserves due process and fair representation as a dues-paying member, but...

The Whale guys sitting SC from home in California for *two years* come to mind. One guy reportedly had 23 CPO visits over the years... 23. That whole episode cost us dearly, at least to blanket go to full battle-stations for all of them, anyway.