Well it’s also very rare to not serve substantially more of a “prison sentence” when you show up on property at ANY regional with all your certificates through ATP and no degree. The big 3 don’t even look at individuals with no degree, I’ve never met anyone at mainline with no degree in hand. I’m not saying we don’t have them, but it has to be extremely rare.

I don’t have the statistics but the 3 WO’s seem to have a substantial amount of ATP pilots with no degree, that doesn’t help movement. Also when you believe you’ll end up at American, what’s the point of spending six figures to earn a bachelor’s?