Originally Posted by
poopplop
I disagree. If you don't think "American Eagle" is alter ego, then you've been successfully brainwashed or are playing dumb for your narrative. In the end you're still selling jobs. The only difference is certain people were allowed to keep the best jobs/pay/benefits for themselves. But once those people are threatened by similar outsourcing practices, suddenly it's wrong and every pilot should be united against it...
I don’t think we will see eye to eye on this and that’s ok, but there is a difference between allowing specific aircraft smaller than anything you fly to be subcontracted and having alter ego airlines. Endeavor can’t just start flying Delta’s a330s. I personally have no beef with NLH, I’m not happy to see them fail. any issues I had with Norwegian stem from flag of Convenience operations which NLH was not doing.
Originally Posted by
poopplop
I'm not saying it wouldn't be difficult. But "dug my heels PRETTY HARD on scope" literally means nothing. There is no justification for self praise while accepting the contractor-subsidized profit-sharing check. There is no reason to take moral high ground over Norwegian while mainline jobs are sold to contractors with subpar wages/benefits here at home.
Those jobs were shipped off in BK, I’m sure if mainline pilots agreed to a 70% pay cut and give up all our work rules management might think about it but I don’t see a scenario where we are able to take back scope without decimating the rest of our contract, it’s too valuable to management to be able to outsource that flying. Most non military pilots start at the regionals but a solid majority move on to a major after they upgrade.
on a side note, I’m assuming you are a euro pilot, how do major airlines in Europe hire pilots? Does a pilot go to work for Lufthansa city line then apply to Lufthansa? What about LCCs, can you work at low cost carrier then apply to a network carrier (like Lufthansa, KLM, SAS etc)?