I watched as UAL ALPA guided pilots into caving time after time. It left a bad taste in my mouth. And since I paid my dues while at the bottom of the list for most of my UA career I'll address the topic at my leisure. Especially since this is an online forum that even managerial types can sign up for.

Firstly, I made the most benign joke about concessions and you came unglued. Sounds like you're the one with the problem. How many jobs will the LOA "save" and at what cost to the pilot group? The jury is still out on that but given our past, I'd say that Willis is pretty happy with the agreement. You and I just have different ideas about how to fix things. I don't think that pilots opening their wallets to fix managerial problems is the right solution.

How many times do we need to learn this?


SL accrual. BS.
Training pay. BS.
CQDL pay. BS.
Vacation pay. Half of what it used to be.
Short calls and Field Standby. "Never happen!" They happen all the time.
etc etc etc.

WE PAID for our last round of hourly raises through givebacks throughout the contract. Some guys see it. You don't.