Originally Posted by
ObadiahDogberry
So in your world, someone who is not line checked as a captain, is not PC'd as a captain, is not listed as a captain on the release, and is unable to log P1 time is still somehow a captain?! How does that work? I'd like to hear your logic. I am sure there are tens of thousands of FOs out there that would love to hear it too. Oh, and let the FAA and EASA know as well, I am sure they would be interested to hear your logic.
You are not completely correct. Principally the Relief captain was not a senior FO. As per the manual the RC was to be in command whenever the Commander/P1 was off duty. The time logged as such was PIC-US (under supervision). To muddy the waters further many commanders were EX-KLM, Virgin, Emirates etc. and had a tendency to implement whatever structure they were familiar with prior and therefore did not actually treat RCA’s as intended. This made for some interesting situations especially with the KLM types (think stereotypical Naval aviator attitude) and autocratic Emirates guys with their sandbox CRM. It was a dung show at times.