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Old 03-03-2021 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
Why isn’t alpa pushing hard for a faster flow to make up for years with no flow! They have renegotiated before. Time to bump up the rate since most will be off the street soon.
Yeah, it would be all air though, given the flow requires AA to be hiring, a position they are not currently in.
Originally Posted by Excargodog
Uhhh, maybe because with guys already at AA facing FURLOUGHS, it’s a pretty steep hill to climb right now. Before AA starts hiring through the flow, they’d actually have to be hiring...
Agreed.
Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
yeah, not a chance. According to thekooj AA wants Envoy to grow. There is no chance they increase flow to make up anything when hiring starts back up. They do not want to decimate their growing Regional network. As a matter of fact, as AA hiring increases expect the percentage of Flow pilots in each class to decrease.
We have in the past we have been offered significant gains to the flow numbers during rough times for AA, so it isnt without precedent. Sadly at the time our pilot group thought we were more valuable than we were and AA showed us exactly where we could stick the counter offer. Needless to say if we taken it, we would have all been there by now.

I diverge, the idea that AA may come looking for concessions or renegotiations, or if APA pushes hard against any talk of scope relaxing, the flow formula could be retweaked. We need to remember that formula was designed when AA needed lots of pilots but didn't want to decimate their regional feed. I dont think we are anywhere near that level of hiring so who knows.
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