Flow Negotiations
08-28-2021, 02:03 PM
#142
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Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow
Who really wants to work for AA at this point?
Between ominous levels of debt at AAG, a flow that's neither guaranteed nor worthwhile seniority-wise if you do arrive at AA (um ... who wants to miss "the hiring wave" and be furlough fodder), and basically everywhere else hiring, flow is worthless.
Between ominous levels of debt at AAG, a flow that's neither guaranteed nor worthwhile seniority-wise if you do arrive at AA (um ... who wants to miss "the hiring wave" and be furlough fodder), and basically everywhere else hiring, flow is worthless.
08-28-2021, 02:21 PM
#143
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Originally Posted by Airlinepilot421
. I think the legacies are too big to fail, even with large amount of debt. But I could be wrong
Or more historically some PanAm pilots that thought the same thing.
08-28-2021, 02:56 PM
#144
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Originally Posted by wingtipwalker
There are probably some Alitalia pilots who thought the same thing.
Or more historically some PanAm pilots that thought the same thing.
Or more historically some PanAm pilots that thought the same thing.
08-29-2021, 02:03 AM
#145
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Originally Posted by wingtipwalker
There are probably some Alitalia pilots who thought the same thing.
Or more historically some PanAm pilots that thought the same thing.
Or more historically some PanAm pilots that thought the same thing.
Alitalia is a tiny piece of the EU airline industry. A better comparison would be if IAG or Lufthansa Group collapsed. If Lufthansa, Swiss, Eurowings, Austrian, and Brussels all were on death row, I think even the EU would step in and prevent a collapse.
I think AA will be fine.
08-29-2021, 04:13 PM
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I was just responding with some skepticism that “AA is too big to fail”…I don’t think AA is going anywhere. But any company is just a few major management missteps away from obscurity…
Not the topic of this thread, but if ULCC’s continue their rise (think I read they’re about 30% market share in Europe to <10% in the US) the big 4 could get crowded and become the big 3.
Ask most legacy/mainline guys and they’re hesitant to admit that WN is even a part of the big 4…but look what they’ve been able to chip away in the past 10-20 years.
Not the topic of this thread, but if ULCC’s continue their rise (think I read they’re about 30% market share in Europe to <10% in the US) the big 4 could get crowded and become the big 3.
Ask most legacy/mainline guys and they’re hesitant to admit that WN is even a part of the big 4…but look what they’ve been able to chip away in the past 10-20 years.
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