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07-17-2021 | 07:06 AM

#101

Cujo665

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Originally Posted by buddies8

Unless you're one of the 6.
you ain't getting increase in numbers for flow.
It is what it is.

They'll increase it as a means to attract pilots rather than provide meaningful wage and working condition improvements. I sat at the table with Kirby, Isom, Hashimoto and Pedro... they will use the flow as a recruiting tool. It costs them nothing. You could see the wheels spinning in their heads when we talked about extra flow language after the L10-11 crowd. They knew exactly what they had and how it would benefit them in the future.
Don't give them anything for what you'll get anyway as the shortage worsens.

07-17-2021 | 09:48 AM

#102

Approach1260

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Originally Posted by Cujo665

Why increase it when they already grossly underestimate time to flow on recruiting material? 5-7 years to flow sounds appealing, and by the time they realize it probably will be longer they're already invested.

07-17-2021 | 10:37 AM

#103

ColdAndDark

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Does anyone know how many people flowed in AAs most recent class this past week? I couldn’t find the number.

07-17-2021 | 11:01 AM

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pitchattitude

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Does anyone know how many people flowed in AAs most recent class this past week? I couldn’t find the number.

AA had a new hire class, or was it a recall of those previously in class?

07-17-2021 | 11:15 AM

#105

ArmyRWP2018

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude

AA had a new hire class, or was it a recall of those previously in class?

Pretty sure this was the flow class from March 2020 that finally started training at American. They “left” the regional but never started training. Those named are grayed out out on our seniority list until they graduate training at mainline. Then they disappear.