Flow Negotiations
03-23-2021, 08:30 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by Shiner
I think the biggest issue is training backlog at AA.
Originally Posted by Shiner
They displaced a huge number of pilots by parking the 190, 75/76, and 330.
Originally Posted by Shiner
They also had quite a few out on furlough.
Originally Posted by Shiner
I don’t think they’ll be able to train new hires for quite a while.
03-23-2021, 10:27 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
its not a once concessions. It an agreement not to grieve 2020-2021, where AA broke the scope because they parked so many narrow bodies. It’s a slippery slope.
potato tomato. it's a concession
03-23-2021, 02:11 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by rld1k
Why would APA agree to a no furlough thru 2022 for scope concessions then?
Originally Posted by coodrough568
I’d keep your heads up. We are roughly 7-800k travelers per day away from 2019 levels with virtually NO business travel at all.
Originally Posted by coodrough568
its not a once concessions. It an agreement not to grieve 2020-2021, where AA broke the scope because they parked so many narrow bodies. It’s a slippery slope.
Originally Posted by coodrough568
well call APA, tell them no and then AA will just have to shutdown most of the regionals and we’ll lose however many thousands of jobs that is. Not sure what your remedy in this situation is. The RJs were basically the reason AA made any money at all last year
APA either knows that furloughs might be coming or doesnt see enough positive news to bargain for other gains. If they thought AA was going to be hiring in the next year, I feel like they would have gone after something besides protections. I dont know how much the scope grievance would have been worth, but it would have been something.
I agree about the RJ's, which again kinda makes you think AA isnt about to start carving out pilots from their profitable operation, at least not soon. When you add all of that in with the other things going against us such as fleet reductions, more lockdowns internationally and a lack of business travel, makes me feel like we are looking at two years before flows start.
I hope I am wrong, it would be fantastic for all. The situation just doesnt seem to warrant it in this posters opinion.
03-27-2021, 08:50 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by CrandallCrawler
Well from the sound of things the Piedmont/Envoy merger rumor seems to be growing some legs finally. Has anyone been hearing these rumors lately?
03-27-2021, 08:53 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by CrandallCrawler
Well from the sound of things the Piedmont/Envoy merger rumor seems to be growing some legs finally. Has anyone been hearing these rumors lately?
Looks like you created a new profile to stir $h!+.
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