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Old 03-24-2021 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
The majority of pilots hired after 9/11 had to stay in incredibly low-paying regional or CFI jobs with no benefits for many years. Or work non-flying jobs just to make ends meet. Or got stuck in the sandbox with the military at less pay and worse QOL than mainline pilots.

Everyone had their own challenges, and we all somehow survived. Carving out part of our contract for one small demographic doesn’t seem very fair.

First off I am a little skeptical that any True DZs are still around. There is no official definition of DZs but most agree with something like those who were getting a smaller retirement than expected (most DAL Pilots) but also those who didn't have enough time to make it up. Well 16 years after BK most with an extra 5 in the left seat, who didn't have time to properly plan for retirement?

With that said some guys were royally hosed via the BK process. With the various silos, PGBC and the 401K etc most still here should be in excellent financial shape. I too am skeptical of carve outs for various demographics in the Pilot group - they just don't seem to work out as envisioned.

Finally as to your first point we are talking about Delta Pilots - IMHO the sacrifices we all made prior to Delta don't really count toward much regarding the Delta PWA, and that is after all what we are discussing.

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Last edited by Scoop; 03-24-2021 at 09:36 AM.
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