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Old 03-24-2021 | 07:06 PM
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Buck Rogers
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
$175k per year in '06. How ever did you survive......?


Try $0 for over 5 years on an unfunded involuntary vacation. And on top of that, both pilot groups at the time supported things such as retired pilots coming back to work while folks were on furlough, and 3 loa's allowing the company to "flex up" monthy max times in certain categories despite it stating in the contract it was forbidden to do so with furloughs. But hey, the guys that got to enjoy that financial windfall were the annointed 747 and dc-10 folk. And nevermind it was shown that those loa's kept furloughs on the street even longer.


You (and others) sound just like those individuals that had a full, or close to full frozen pension and as such, received little to no targeted Defined Contribution so that more Defined Contribution went to those with significantly less to no frozen pension (the 'ole "stovepiping" nwalpa called it). What did some of those individuals do? Sued in court to get a slice of the DC contribution pie. It wasn't enough that they had almost a full frozen pension (and some had more via a special annuity). They had to have more. 'Cause.


And to make it even worse for those with little to no frozen pension, the extra defined contribution they got disappeared in '14 with the joint contract. Their DC was reduced to less than what they had been receiving. To this day, it is still less. And those same folk with the full/significant frozen pensions? They got yet another windfall when all of a sudden they had a fat 14%(?) DC contribution. While some others got a reduction.


Anybody that wants yet another eye-opener along the lines of good 'ole buck here research or ask around about the tanksley group.


I am going to be very un-pc here, but I really don't care after reading the same drivel from the likes of you and other top-of-the-heap's since the bankruptcy and furloughs: Please feel free to take your $175k in '06 and stick it where the sun don't shine. Ideally one Federal Reserve Note at a time.

Well, the good news for you...you won't need any retirement. You are bound to stroke out long before


OBTW....I wasn't NW....and what the Tankrsley group did was wrong. Who paid for (your) Cobra? Yea the guys that thought it was the right thing to do. They coulda said....furloughs, tough tata's ...no problem....they have been around for ever ....deal with it.....about the same attitude as you exhibit here. Glad we didn't do that.....I'm also glad we terminated the B-scale even thought I spent just shy of 5 years on it. Fortunately the majority of the group isn't as short sighted as you. .Have fun wallowing in your misery.


The only thing you can accuse me of is throwing out a COLA to PBGA/frozen plans to see what folks thought . I stated that the MEC over-reach was grossly inappropriate in the last round. The cost would be negligible....about like the Cobra benefits.

This whole thread was started to discuss the pensions and DZers. Thought that was what I was doing....it seems to have struck an emotional nerve.
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