Originally Posted by
Scoop
C'mon - lighten up on the young vs old. Buck makes many good points and so do you. How about we agree to disagree.
As far as the PERP program - retired Pilots returning, yeah it sucked but the alternative was worse. So when you have two bad options isn't it better to choose the least bad? DAL had mismanaged its crew resources, as always, and we were between a rock and a hard place - there was no magical "tough guy" solution that we missed.
Like I said I am skeptical on carve out and am amused that Pilots among those making 250K + within 3 years are mocking a 20 year Pilot making 175K who just lost his planned for DB. I am 100% against bringing back the DB but lets not lose the ability to see things from others POV.
And for every Captain making 175K there were 5-15 year FOs making sub 100K (yours truly 
) who are rapidly approaching retirement with some already retired.
Scoop
And honestly this is the group I have the most sympathy for. Not a dig at anyone else, but I think this group (2000-2001 hires) had a rougher run at DL than most other pilots on property.
I think the ship has sailed on a specific carve out, but there are definitely options that will help those hired pre 9/11 in the near term while being a benefit for post 2007 hires as that group gets closer to retirement. I think improving of both active and retiree medical would be a great start, as would my previous suggestion about increasing DC% after a certain longevity.