Originally Posted by
Scoop
C'mon - lighten up on the young vs old. Buck makes many good points and so do you. How about we agree to disagree.
Scoop
This has nothing to do with young versus old. It has everything to do with the tanksley-types that have a pension or pbgc, have also been collecting the same DC contribution as everyone else, and now want more (as in the past) on top of their pensions with suggestions of a COLA or something like that. And I am not that young.
How about we agree to disagree.
Sorry, no. Been watching these types do what they do for too long now. And have been on the receiving end of it.
As far as the PERP program - retired Pilots returning, yeah it sucked but the alternative was worse. So when you have two bad options isn't it better to choose the least bad? DAL had mismanaged its crew resources, as always, and we were between a rock and a hard place - there was no magical "tough guy" solution that we missed.
Uh-huh.
Like I said I am skeptical on carve out and am amused that Pilots among those making 250K + within 3 years are mocking a 20 year Pilot making 175K who just lost his planned for DB. I am 100% against bringing back the DB but lets not lose the ability to see things from others POV.
I am in their point of view. I lost my entire pension, and then I lost my targeted DC contribution that was supposed to make up for (lolz) the loss of said pension. While they kept their pension or part of it and gained the DC. And I got to enjoy the bankruptcy payrates as well. And now they want me to add more to their pension/pbgc with a COLA or something else? No thanks.
And for every Captain making 175K there were 5-15 year FOs making sub 100K (yours truly
) who are rapidly approaching retirement with some already retired.
Yep. I am right there with 'ya on what we earned back then. It was nice coming back from furlough to enjoy continuing on probation pay. But hey, they "gave" us cobra. So it's all good.
But alas, as Trip 7 said, they won't be able to get stuff passed anymore due to the 1800 gone on the Veop.
The sun has set on their "empire."
Edit: once again I don't know why the quote function is putting that text in such a big font. I am not doing that. Italics didn't shrink it either.......hmm