Originally Posted by
LeeFXDWG
UAL guy here. Just thought I’d chime in on your post.
Any UAL pilot that took the time and understood there was a long game gamble being placed voted yes.
IMHO, anyone against it was looking at “how does it affect me today” vice where we will be at some point in the not too distant future.
Those that complain loudly were in the former group. And most of them are now coming around.
I won’t try and compare your solution to ours. I will say that we don’t have the UNA option you do so that wasn’t on the table.
A long bet was made. In the end thanks to continued government cheese (factored in to our strategy) we made a good deal on this.
Yes, luck was involved but I’d rather be lucky than good. In this case, we were both IMHO.
Yall take care!
Lee
While I realize that this is a Delta Forum, I feel I needed to weigh in after a comment-
IMHO, anyone against it was looking at “how does it affect me today” vice where we will be at some point in the not too distant future.
Both Delta and United are ALPA. Yet we have both gone in different directions.
Delta seems to have held the line and allowed the Pilot group to dictate the direction of the MEC via survey, time and a vote.
We did things differently. MEC went along with the company, no survey and then the rush to vote.
I was an adamant NO Voter and still am. We got lucky (you are right!).
I (and most) would never have believed there would be a Cares Act 3. Let along that companies would Hire and/or cancel flights AFTER taking the money!
I voted
NO BECAUSE I believe in Seniority, I believe in Unionism. Not because of how it affects me today but HOW does it affect me AND my pilot group (and Profession) in the future.
Who knows how long EB remains at the helm of Delta, or TI remains at the helm of UAL/ALPA?
All about Luck (as u stated) but also about timing.
Unionism use to stand for something. It's been misplaced (or divided into 3rds!) on our side, hopefully it's not lost at this side.
Good Luck Delta ALPA ( and pilot group!)
Hold the line
Fly Safe, Fly Professionally and Fly the Contract~
Always
Motch
PS)
3 Yrs 5 Months 17 Days-
Since TI and our union stated they were working with management to get a new UPA (at amendable date)
2 Yrs, 2 Months, 5 Days-
Since our UPA became amendable
1 Yr, 3 Months, 4 Days-
Since 2/3rds of this pilot group saw a pay raise, though about a 3rd does have the opportunity to bid into a higher seat (maybe)