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Old 07-07-2021 | 05:46 PM
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dera
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Originally Posted by BigZ
Oh cool, we are starting to get somewhere.
Let's do a read along together.
18-01 says "5. With respect to the provisions concerning “Pilots Hired After DOS” in Letter 15-01 (Page 7), Envoy and the Association hereby confirm that the accurate interpretation and application of those provisions is as follows:
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• If American is entering new hire pilots into training in a given calendar year, Envoy will release Envoy pilots, to permit them to participate in American new-hire training classes, in an amount that is the lesser of (a) twenty-five percent (25%) of all new pilot positions at American that are filled in the relevant calendar year; or (b) five (5) new pilot positions at American (increased by one for every 125 pilots above the base number of 480 on the Envoy pilot seniority list) times the number of calendar months in that calendar year in which American actually hired pilots."
In other words, it's good that you actually read it, but the language in there doesn't say what you say it does.

Say AA hires 300 in the first six months of a year then another 600 in the last 6 months of a year minus December.
You say 12x6 + 20x5 = 172, right?
I say the lesser of 900x0.25 = 225 or 20x11=220 - which would be 220 in this case.

As a friendly reminder, you still owe me a beer from the last exercise in document digging.
So you are flowing 18 a month. Where is the catchup? Sending 0 for 6 months and then 35 the next months does not change your flow date.
The post you originally replied to was where I said if AA is hiring 660 a year, Envoy will then flow 13.75 a month. Or 15 a month if they hire 720 a full year. The only way the catchup works is if they drastically ramp up their hiring mid year, but it's not relevant to any of the scenarios that were discussed.
And what management is doing, let's just say, don't hold your breath on that happening.

You never claimed the beer. It's on me, just lmk.
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