Originally Posted by
LandGreen
This thought process is toxic. We deserve better pay rates and I’m sick of of these idiotic excuses that our group comes up with to justify their happiness with a career at Spirit. Our QOL is pretty good, the red/green system is great, but that doesn’t mean that every other major and legacy carrier (that are getting paid far more than us I’ll add) don’t have a great QOL too. In fact, friends all over the industry have it much better than us in many different QOL categories. I’ll list them if someone wants to dispute it.
Think about this- a 5 year Spirit captain is getting paid $53 less per hour than a United 5 year airbus captain. At our min reserve guarantee of 72 hours (which is also below industry average) is $3,816 per month and nearly $46,000 per year. You like to work a little extra and credit 85 hours per month? That’s now a pay difference of $4,505 per month and $54,000 per year. Are you really willing to die on the “we have the best QOL in the industry” hill with the rest of the cheerleaders at this cost?
We have the lowest CASM of any airline running the 320s and Spirit loves to brag about it during their investor calls. Management wants to grow us to 300 airplanes and 5,000 pilots by 2027, and bigger beyond that. Put on your big boy pants and demand industry standard pay when negation season comes around. Wouldn’t you rather brag about our great QOL and pay while your sitting in United’s jump seat?
Sure thing big dog, maybe this time the pilot group will show up with a pair to actually fight for everything you mentioned. Seems I remember very little engagement last go around during negotiations; unless the Union is buying free pizza and beers. Guys tripping over themselves to pick up open time, we got sued when pilots called them out.
Just like last go around I keep hearing how we need this and that, but nobody doesn’t anything but type on a forum and expect it to be handed to them.
As soon as I see 100% engagement from this group,
including picketing events and all pilot calls, I’ll be right back in. But fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice…
Do you realize how insane it is that pilots had to seek “vigilante justice” on guys because we had pilots who were so self absorbed, they only cared about themselves?
I’ll be back walking in circles once I see it isn’t just me and the same 20 guys like last time at the events I attended