Originally Posted by
tango1998
Does anyone have a clear answer on how to count T-37 and T38 Pilot in Command hours? Looking at the FAR, the definition says you need to be qualified in the aircraft and be the sole manipulator of the controls. If that is true, then when you complete your first checkride and can now solo it (i.e. checked out the aircraft), isn't all the hours from that point on PIC? You may still be a student and log your time as "primary UP", but your training is in military areas, not basic aircraft handling training. Therefore, all UPT time after your first checkride should be PIC if I read that correctly. Then, I would assume all my T-38 UPT time after the first checkride is PIC, as well as all my IFF time.
Can someone please confirm or deny this? Thanks a lot.
Tango,
I interviewed with AirTran, SWA and Delta (now employed by Delta), I reported all of my T-37 solo time and T-38 solo time as PIC. None of the three aforementioned airlines even batted an eye.
The rest of your UPT time counts as multi-engine turbine time only, which
should be included in your total turbine time.
NONE of your T-37 or T-38 UPT time with an IP in the jet is PIC,
NONE (nor SIC either). As mentioned by another of the bros above, a UPT checkride qualifies you for diddly squat. If you went to IFF, none of that time is PIC either unless you were solo in the jet. Any time you have in the F-15D or F-16D is also NOT PIC. Bottom line, any military flight you have ever had with an IP in the aircraft is not PIC. Any flight time you have in a military aircraft that you were solo, or the AC in a crew aircraft,
is PIC.
Any more questions or if you want a copy of the spreadsheets I used to calculate my airline PIC time, PM me.
Good luck,
Buzz