Originally Posted by
hoover
interesting article. Seems like the factors may be more testing so they're finding more positives, people going back to school/work/religious events, and total reliance on the vaccine that isn't preventing contraction or spreading.
do you happen to know the deaths per million in Israel before the vaccine roll out? That would be the difference in my opinion. If it is statistically fewer deaths with vaccine then maybe its helping and we all just need to let this thing run its course and let people decide their fate.
if I cant protect you from covid but you can protect yourself by getting a shot then I'd say it's pretty much individual choice at this point. The we need to protect the ones who cant get it etc is now moot. I can no longer save your mima or toddler. Seems like personal responsibility needs to make a comeback.
Agreed. I don’t know the death count, but that is irrelevant with how we have handled this. Even when death counts were low in January the whole world was focused on case numbers.
My fiancé is from Israel and has currently been there the last 2 months. She has not been tested other than when initially arriving and she claims they don’t test anymore or less than the U.S. If the vaccines worked as advertised it shouldn’t matter if kids were going to school or synagogues were opening up. You could literally be peeing on each other and the numbers shouldn’t be anywhere close to what they are if the vaccines worked as initially promised.
The vaccines are inferior. For 60% of people (per Israel and the Mayo Clinic) the vaccines do nothing. Meanwhile, 99.9% of covid infections that have used Ivermectin at the first sign of symptoms have not had ANY serious cases.