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Old 09-10-2021, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
It was always well within the scope of reasonable reality that this thing would become endemic and require periodic vaccine updates. Just like the flu but most likely less often. Since previous vaccination will generally confer *some* longer-term immunity even across variants, it's unlikely that you'd need a full three-dose regimen each year... more likely an annual booster that's updated as required for any new variants.


https://www.newsnationnow.com/health...9-flu-vaccine/


The end game isn't stamping it out, it's finding the balance point where we can live with. Since it's more political than the flu, that balance point might be different than for the flu although eventually it should all settle out. At some point covid hysteria won't be fun and exciting any more.
The variants haven't actually escaped the antibodies, for example, Delta requires higher antibody levels for neutralization due to its greater binding ability. The antibodies basically work by unfolding the spike protein, not allowing ace2 site binding. Antibodies made for this are from the full antigen, locked in its prefusion form by a proline substitution mutation. The vaccine encodes the entire spike antigen to express via antigen presenting cells. This is a safety feature, otherwise you would get sub-optimal antibodies that enhance inflammation.

Every virus has an evolutionary trick to fool the immune system, Covid's trick is it blocks its spike antigen express to T-cells. This is devastating to the vaccine, as it can't confer long term immunity without antibody levels artificially stimulated above neutralization. If variants do finally escape neutralization from antibodies(Covid is on that evolutionary path, probably due to the vaccine schedule), then a completely new antigen is needed for the vaccine, requiring the primer/booster dose to achieve neutralization levels.

(The most effective vaccine, is the one with the highest dose, i.e. Moderna)
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