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Old 11-15-2021 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Are you imbibing tonight? (Full disclosure: I am).

Reread the posts. You implied that scheduling assumes you are at home when they call at 6am for a short call assignment and that the company assumes you’ll always be in the same spot (home) when on short call…and that if we aren’t in the same spot for multiple reserve call outs in a co-terminal base we shall bring the wrath of an omnipotent gracious employer - who will tighten the screws on we ungrateful peasants.

I don’t even know where to begin on correcting so many false statements and actually won’t. Please just stop sharing bad data for anyone trying to understand actual contractual obligations. Quote the PWA or LOAs or grievance language wherever you like, but your personal paranoias about how reserve works are likely to mislead the inexperienced and new hire readers following this thread. If they are sitting short call, they need to be promptly available to one of the co terminal airports. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am not implying anything. There are accepted limits to promptly available. Past practice has defined that over time via discussions with the union and system boards. Individual pilots don’t get to decide how long they have to report. Everyone understands including the CP’s that things happen and delays reporting occur for a myriad of reasons. If you take 4 hours because of a major accident closing a road no one is going to face anything beyond a short explanation. The same if you are in a accident or your engine blows up. I even knew a pilot who was detained as a potential bank robbery suspect making him late. If however you take 4 hours because you live 4 hours away there may be a different outcome if on shortcall. I can tell you that I personally know a pilot who was terminated for sitting short call in San Diego for LAX. That trip is drivable in 2 hours with zero traffic. That’s never the norm however. There were issues with this case and he rightfully got his job back. The union agreed however that short call in SD was not promptly available as well as sitting shortcall in LSV where it was agreed promptly available was by surface transportation. The reason we don’t put 2 hours in the contract is to protect pilots who show in 2 hours and 1 minute. Currently and for many years prior the company has been extremely lenient on almost all aspects of reserve and regular trip reporting. I like it that way. If we get to many pilots playing sea lawyer we will lose that relationship. The pilots will also lose at the system board.
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