Reserve for Dummies
Yesterday | 06:31 AM
#5261
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PR/PB may "appear" on your schedule when you are awarded the rotation, but it's smoke and mirrors and nothing more than a prediction. The "actual" movement of X-days doesn't occur until the rotation releases. This means that the LC day is always a LC day until the rotation releases and PB/PR are "actually" placed over it. It didn't "used to be" a LC day until then, it always was.
As with many other things, the presentation of X-day movement in iCrew (PB/PR) makes things harder to decipher than they should be.
TL
R. Yes, all the last-day credits would go towards guarantee because the trip ended on a LC day. Or more specifically, because the last duty period began on a LC day. It's an unfortunate scenario.
As with many other things, the presentation of X-day movement in iCrew (PB/PR) makes things harder to decipher than they should be.
TL
R. Yes, all the last-day credits would go towards guarantee because the trip ended on a LC day. Or more specifically, because the last duty period began on a LC day. It's an unfortunate scenario.
Yesterday | 11:28 AM
#5262
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2022
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From: New hire Delta
Question for the masses....if you are on a GS/QS/IA while on reserve (all X Days). How does the PB day calculation work if you fatigue out for the penalty lap on the last day? Does the PB day calculation start at release of the flight into the hub (which you operate and then fatigue after), or after the planned penalty lap comes back, or is it now when your fatigue rest ends?
Yesterday | 11:31 AM
#5263
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Question for the masses....if you are on a GS/QS/IA while on reserve (all X Days). How does the PB day calculation work if you fatigue out for the penalty lap on the last day? Does the PB day calculation start at release of the flight into the hub (which you operate and then fatigue after), or after the planned penalty lap comes back, or is it now when your fatigue rest ends?
Yesterday | 12:38 PM
#5264
On Reserve
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From: New hire Delta
Yesterday | 12:44 PM
#5265
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
Question for the masses....if you are on a GS/QS/IA while on reserve (all X Days). How does the PB day calculation work if you fatigue out for the penalty lap on the last day? Does the PB day calculation start at release of the flight into the hub (which you operate and then fatigue after), or after the planned penalty lap comes back, or is it now when your fatigue rest ends?
Yesterday | 12:58 PM
#5266
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From: The Right One
NO to the “+2ish hour”. If you are noncontactable, which is the first 2:00 of SC, you can be given a report at 2:01 and must be immediately available.
However, if you call CS OR check your schedule in iCrew, and no trip is present, you immediately revert back to “promptly available” (“2ish”hours) from that moment.
However, if you call CS OR check your schedule in iCrew, and no trip is present, you immediately revert back to “promptly available” (“2ish”hours) from that moment.
No.. you're immediately available at the 2 hour mark when you're required to determine if you have been assigned a rotation. Once you check and determine no assignment was issued, it's at that point you return to promptly available. If you call scheduling to let them know you're in position prior to the 2 hour mark or check your schedule inside the two hours and there is nothing on your schedule, you also return to promptly available at that time.
Negative.
SRH pg 108:
"At any point prior to the end of the two-hour period, the pilot may inform Crew Scheduling that they are now available for contact or check their schedule and, if no assignment has been made, will then be required to be “promptly available” as described above.
Fangs is correct.
SRH pg 108:
"At any point prior to the end of the two-hour period, the pilot may inform Crew Scheduling that they are now available for contact or check their schedule and, if no assignment has been made, will then be required to be “promptly available” as described above.
Fangs is correct.
I should not type while fatigued...
Fangs is technically correct, but it confused me in my fatigued state. Verdell said it better than I did.
Yesterday | 01:08 PM
#5267
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/S. I had two in one day a few months back!
Yesterday | 01:56 PM
#5268
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Question for the masses....if you are on a GS/QS/IA while on reserve (all X Days). How does the PB day calculation work if you fatigue out for the penalty lap on the last day? Does the PB day calculation start at release of the flight into the hub (which you operate and then fatigue after), or after the planned penalty lap comes back, or is it now when your fatigue rest ends?
One way to think about release time (other than just looking at your schedule), is when did your TAFB, thus your Per Diem, end?
Yesterday | 02:12 PM
#5269
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2022
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From: New hire Delta
The TAFB is a good way to think about it. I didn’t know if you were “released” from a trip if you fatigued out in base at the end of a trip or if you released from the trip after the rested and ready time. Thanks for the info
Today | 09:55 AM
#5270
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Hey all, I was told in the past that if you YS a rotation, this note in the contract will no longer apply. Does anyone know where in the SRH/PWA it states that it will no longer apply? Thanks!
“A commuting pilot assigned a rotation under Section 23 S. 2. a. 5) will be considered to have complied with any requirement under a Company or PWA commuter policy to book a backup flight.”
“A commuting pilot assigned a rotation under Section 23 S. 2. a. 5) will be considered to have complied with any requirement under a Company or PWA commuter policy to book a backup flight.”
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