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Old 11-20-2015, 04:11 PM   #1  
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Duration 2 years amendable on 1/31/19

• 1/1/16 16% raise
• 1/1/17 3% raise
• 1/1/18 2% (this may be off a percentage one way or the other)

• DAL ME TOO PAY RATE CLAUSE – Whatever DAL gets in terms of pay rates during the 24 months of extension (strictly pay rates, i.e., not for bonuses), the UAL pay rates go to that number.

• LOA 25 pilots made whole. 39 million dollar bucket distribution determined by ALPA.

• MOU 22 Language changes. Concept of company buying insurance policy, i.e., if they make an offer and pilot accepts he gets the add pay no matter what happens, changes to the pilot only gets the add pay IF in the actual operation the pilot goes over FAR 117 time. Also, if one pilot refuses to waive and the others do, they can fly the airplane home (this applies only to N. Atlantic operation).

• FRMS - agreement but no details revealed. Suspect that most international flights that are now critical in terms of CCO times (i.e., DEL, BOM, EWR-HKG, etc.) will be extended such that MOU 22 would be irrelevant.

• Apparently no concessions on SCOPE

• Apparently No Reserve improvements
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Apparently No Reserve improvements
There's a shocker!!!
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Does that mean if there is a huge recession and DAL rates go DOWN (sts), we get "DAL Me Too?"
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Does that mean if there is a huge recession and DAL rates go DOWN (sts), we get "DAL Me Too?"
No. Only up.
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Section 6.......
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What happened to improving reserve. Hopefully when we get the official word it will include that.
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Would the company be allowed to deadhead a pilot to Europe to act as an IRO on a return flight within the same duty period?
Where do you get that? Apparently, a flight could fly home from Europe w/ 2 pilots if It was legal under FAR 117 AND one copilot refused to waive duty. Right now, if augmented over, must be augmented back.
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What happened to improving reserve. Hopefully when we get the official word it will include that.
Agreed! It's complete abuse with the short calls and fsb. Only 10 pairings start in IAH on a Saturday and 11 short calls! Almost every hour, this has become the norm...
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Where do you get that? Apparently, a flight could fly home from Europe w/ 2 pilots if It was legal under FAR 117 AND one copilot refused to waive duty. Right now, if augmented over, must be augmented back.
Fine with me... I'll sit in FC and watch.
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So what sorts of improvements on Reserve were folks hoping for? I don't have much of a frame of reference. I flew on Reserve a lot last summer, no surprise. Come September, I flew two out and back trips but got paid 80 hours because I volunteered for a bunch of ultimately unused SC/FSBs. Nice surprise, me likey getting paid extra to sit. I'm sure improvements can be made, but don't know what the rub is.
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