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Flytolive 11-20-2015 04:11 PM

Contract extension AIP bullet points
 
This is from ualpilotsforum.org from a reliable source

Duration 2 years amendable on 1/31/19

• 1/1/16 16% raise
• 1/1/17 3% raise
• 1/1/18 2% (this may be off a percentage one way or the other)

• DAL ME TOO PAY RATE CLAUSE – Whatever DAL gets in terms of pay rates during the 24 months of extension (strictly pay rates, i.e., not for bonuses), the UAL pay rates go to that number.

• LOA 25 pilots made whole. 39 million dollar bucket distribution determined by ALPA.

• MOU 22 Language changes. Concept of company buying insurance policy, i.e., if they make an offer and pilot accepts he gets the add pay no matter what happens, changes to the pilot only gets the add pay IF in the actual operation the pilot goes over FAR 117 time. Also, if one pilot refuses to waive and the others do, they can fly the airplane home (this applies only to N. Atlantic operation).

• FRMS - agreement but no details revealed. Suspect that most international flights that are now critical in terms of CCO times (i.e., DEL, BOM, EWR-HKG, etc.) will be extended such that MOU 22 would be irrelevant.

• Apparently no concessions on SCOPE

• Apparently No Reserve improvements

Airhoss 11-20-2015 04:20 PM


Apparently No Reserve improvements
There's a shocker!!!:rolleyes:

UAL T38 Phlyer 11-20-2015 04:37 PM

Does that mean if there is a huge recession and DAL rates go DOWN (sts), we get "DAL Me Too?"

Flytolive 11-20-2015 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2014424)
Does that mean if there is a huge recession and DAL rates go DOWN (sts), we get "DAL Me Too?"

No. Only up.

Shrek 11-20-2015 05:03 PM

Section 6.......

Pro2nd 11-20-2015 05:19 PM

What happened to improving reserve. Hopefully when we get the official word it will include that.

jsled 11-20-2015 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Thor (Post 2014443)
Would the company be allowed to deadhead a pilot to Europe to act as an IRO on a return flight within the same duty period?

Where do you get that? Apparently, a flight could fly home from Europe w/ 2 pilots if It was legal under FAR 117 AND one copilot refused to waive duty. Right now, if augmented over, must be augmented back.

whtever 11-20-2015 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 2014459)
What happened to improving reserve. Hopefully when we get the official word it will include that.

Agreed! It's complete abuse with the short calls and fsb. Only 10 pairings start in IAH on a Saturday and 11 short calls! Almost every hour, this has become the norm...

ugleeual 11-20-2015 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2014460)
Where do you get that? Apparently, a flight could fly home from Europe w/ 2 pilots if It was legal under FAR 117 AND one copilot refused to waive duty. Right now, if augmented over, must be augmented back.

Fine with me... I'll sit in FC and watch.

CLazarus 11-20-2015 05:47 PM

So what sorts of improvements on Reserve were folks hoping for? I don't have much of a frame of reference. I flew on Reserve a lot last summer, no surprise. Come September, I flew two out and back trips but got paid 80 hours because I volunteered for a bunch of ultimately unused SC/FSBs. Nice surprise, me likey getting paid extra to sit. I'm sure improvements can be made, but don't know what the rub is.


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