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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: Bus FO
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Since we've gotten our own spot on APC, some people have hinted that we needed a separate discussion from the hiring thread, so here goes...
Does anyone know when the DOT will tell us (or any other airline) the amount of slots we've been awarded into Cuba?
Do these new Cuba slots mean that we will see accelerated growth with either fleet type?
Does anyone know when the DOT will tell us (or any other airline) the amount of slots we've been awarded into Cuba?
Do these new Cuba slots mean that we will see accelerated growth with either fleet type?

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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190FO
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Well I dunno about the DOT but I'll take a stab at us. When we got the DCA slots it was a bit of a last minute deal so whatever plans we had were changed / put on hold as we pulled 190s to do DCA and backfilled 320s on those other routes. Some 320 routes were ended to facilitate the DCA ramp up.
I don't think Cuba will happen like that. For starters we have some planes doing the charters already. So those become scheduled. Also DCA had immediate potential where as cuba may be a little slower growth as travel to the island picks up. I don't think they'll need to flood every slot they get immediately.
I don't think Cuba will happen like that. For starters we have some planes doing the charters already. So those become scheduled. Also DCA had immediate potential where as cuba may be a little slower growth as travel to the island picks up. I don't think they'll need to flood every slot they get immediately.
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Position: Ablue320
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Since we've gotten our own spot on APC, some people have hinted that we needed a separate discussion from the hiring thread, so here goes...
Does anyone know when the DOT will tell us (or any other airline) the amount of slots we've been awarded into Cuba?
Do these new Cuba slots mean that we will see accelerated growth with either fleet type?
Does anyone know when the DOT will tell us (or any other airline) the amount of slots we've been awarded into Cuba?
Do these new Cuba slots mean that we will see accelerated growth with either fleet type?
B6 application was:
New York (Kennedy) – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Fort Lauderdale – Havana (4 daily frequencies)
Fort Lauderdale – Camagüey (1 daily frequency)
Fort Lauderdale – Holguiěn (1 daily frequency)
Fort Lauderdale – Santa Clara (1 daily frequency)
Orlando – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Tampa – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Newark – Havana (1 daily frequency)
Boston – Havana (1 daily frequency)
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Well I dunno about the DOT but I'll take a stab at us. When we got the DCA slots it was a bit of a last minute deal so whatever plans we had were changed / put on hold as we pulled 190s to do DCA and backfilled 320s on those other routes. Some 320 routes were ended to facilitate the DCA ramp up.
I don't think Cuba will happen like that. For starters we have some planes doing the charters already. So those become scheduled. Also DCA had immediate potential where as cuba may be a little slower growth as travel to the island picks up. I don't think they'll need to flood every slot they get immediately.
I don't think Cuba will happen like that. For starters we have some planes doing the charters already. So those become scheduled. Also DCA had immediate potential where as cuba may be a little slower growth as travel to the island picks up. I don't think they'll need to flood every slot they get immediately.
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Late May-Early June timeframe for announcement from DOT regarding Cuba. We will be awarded everything we applied for that wasn't Havana since there weren't enough other applicants to deny anyone on those routes.
B6 application was:
New York (Kennedy) – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Fort Lauderdale – Havana (4 daily frequencies)
Fort Lauderdale – Camagüey (1 daily frequency)
Fort Lauderdale – Holguiěn (1 daily frequency)
Fort Lauderdale – Santa Clara (1 daily frequency)
Orlando – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Tampa – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Newark – Havana (1 daily frequency)
Boston – Havana (1 daily frequency)
B6 application was:
New York (Kennedy) – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Fort Lauderdale – Havana (4 daily frequencies)
Fort Lauderdale – Camagüey (1 daily frequency)
Fort Lauderdale – Holguiěn (1 daily frequency)
Fort Lauderdale – Santa Clara (1 daily frequency)
Orlando – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Tampa – Havana (2 daily frequencies)
Newark – Havana (1 daily frequency)
Boston – Havana (1 daily frequency)
Why not take on more 190s? I think the 190 makes us more flexible than the competition. Sometimes you don't need a A320 with 180 seats from MYR to PBG like the competition uses (NKS--and you know that plane is empty). I'll take a WAG and say it costs us less to operate a 190 with 90 seats filled than a 320 with 90 seats filled. So why not? Sure dispatch reliability isn't awesome, but neither is that of the 380, or even the 788....yet.
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
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Assuming we get maybe 6 of the requested HAV slots, plus the others, that a lot of lift needed overnight. Plus pilots to fly the flights (something tells me Cuba trips won't go to reserves much).
Why not take on more 190s? I think the 190 makes us more flexible than the competition. Sometimes you don't need a A320 with 180 seats from MYR to PBG like the competition uses (NKS--and you know that plane is empty). I'll take a WAG and say it costs us less to operate a 190 with 90 seats filled than a 320 with 90 seats filled. So why not? Sure dispatch reliability isn't awesome, but neither is that of the 380, or even the 788....yet.
Why not take on more 190s? I think the 190 makes us more flexible than the competition. Sometimes you don't need a A320 with 180 seats from MYR to PBG like the competition uses (NKS--and you know that plane is empty). I'll take a WAG and say it costs us less to operate a 190 with 90 seats filled than a 320 with 90 seats filled. So why not? Sure dispatch reliability isn't awesome, but neither is that of the 380, or even the 788....yet.
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