Originally Posted by
Cujo665
I do not necessarily disagree. Having dealt with F&H at a previous carrier, ATSG is not doing themselves any favors retaining them in the midst of a pilot shortage with so many other options available.
It's still a great job, things always get a bit more tense at contract time at any airline. This isn't totally unexpected and it happens everywhere.
What doesn't happen everywhere is selecting F&H solutions. However, since both ATI & ABX have been using F&H for some time already, this isn't entirely unexpected either.
It is however, disappointing. Not enough to not take the job though. You can pour through these message boards and every pilot group from Silver to FedEx has gripes around contract time.
That all said, we are hiring. If you stay out of the internal politics, it's a very good job.
I don't doubt that it is a good job. I have a few friends over there, and they are quite happy with it. But joining a company right when they retain F&H to handle their union busting is certainly not a great time to start. When they throw out the carrot of eliminating home basing, one of the best perks, in exchange for a new aircraft type, then honestly, the appeal of the job is almost eliminated. Given how long U.S. pilot contracts take to hammer out, you are looking at your first 3 to 5 years of being full of angry rhetoric with a possible end game that eliminates one of the most attractive aspects of working there. Sadly, may have to lean towards passing.