Originally Posted by
FXLAX
They provide new hires with hotels now? And training pay is just something here. Everywhere else you are on first year pay.
My contention doesn’t change your personal choice of coming here, as you put value in different things than others might. But my contention would benefit this entire pilot group despite pilots like you who aren’t crazy when making these decisions.
The broader point is this: what does management want? Whatever it is, it’s leverage. If it’s first year pay and hotels, then great, if not, then let’s move on. It’s not personal, it’s business.
Fifteen year pay rate is a disgrace! Why should we wait an extra three years to get to top rate? Make 15 yr rate the new 12, then the 14 the new 11 and so forth as a starting point, then negotiate from there.
There is zero value to the GROUP by increasing new hire pay or getting new hires hotels. That is for recruitment only. We negotiate for those on the property - not for the guys that retired 5 years ago and not for the guys that will be here in 5 years.