Originally Posted by TOGALOCK

You’re making the assumption that we will settle for “industry standard” (a phrase nobody is able to define so “I’m getting so sick of hearing it”). We will get what we fight for and vote in.

Why does my point about the largest gains in ALPA history matter? Because Franke allowed it to happen instead of closing the doors. That’s fact. Not emotion. People at F9 were screaming during the last negotiations that Franke would rather just shut down the airline than give us any kind of raise (emotion). Franke actually ponied up with something sizable when he had no other choices (fact). Now, here we are again and people not even at F9 are crying that Franke is just going to shrink us or shut us down, despite sizable aircraft orders and purchasing another airline (emotion). Let’s see what the facts will be.

Also, I have no doubt aircraft will be parked. Franke has never been a fan of 319s and finds better efficiency in the 320s and 321s. Spirit also has far more old “fuel guzzling” ceos than Frontier. The new entity can replace older aircraft with the newer and more fuel efficient incoming neos and reduce some of our staffing needs. That doesn’t mean the sky is falling. That’s just smart business. When they start parking 321neos then we’ll talk.

Also, F9 just started paying for new hire hotels. A small act I know, but many of our resident expert F9 Holiday Inn Express CEOs said Franke was too cheap to ever do it (again, emotion). Well, he ended up doing it (fact). Are we beginning to see the trend that most factual reality is the opposite of what’s predicted by APC emotion?